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BMSG on block.fm (2023.10.03)
block.fm had a BMSG episode featuring three artists:
Aile The Shota 🫧
JUNON (BE:FIRST) 🐢
KAIRYU (MAZZEL) ☕
They got to share their musical roots, song recommendations, and had a topic they needed to discuss!
"If they could make a song together, what would it be like?"
Check out what their answer is under the cut! ^^
🫧: I’m going to be the M– (stumbled on his words)
☕: You alright?
🫧: Ate my words, haha
🫧: It’s fine, you guys can talk too 😊
🐢, ☕: Hello everyone~
🐢: Is this OK? We haven’t been [properly] introduced, haha.
🫧: Then before you guys come on, I’ll explain what BMSG is.
🫧: BMSG is a company established by SKY-HI, probably the coolest one out there, right?
🐢, ☕: Yes!
🫧: Solo Artists we’ve got SKY-Hi, Novel Core, Aile The Shota, edhiii boi, REIKO, dance+vocal group.. Dance+vocal?. What do you guys usually say?
🐢, ☕: Dance+vocal group
🫧: … Dance+vocal group BE:FIRST and MAZZEL, and we have Trainees too. TAIKI, RUI, KANON, 23 of us~ Today’s program will be brought to you by me, Aile The Shota. I’ll introduce the first guest, BE:FIRST’s JUNON!
🐢: Hi everyone~
🫧: BE:FIRST’s JUNON (desu)
🐢: desu!
🫧, 🐢: 🤣🤣🤣🤣
🫧: And from MAZZEL, KAIRYU
☕: Hi everyone, it’s KAIRYU
🫧: This is quite a new combination right?
🐢: Very (☕: Yeah)
☕: I’m excited about it, but I haven’t talked to both of you much. I want to be closer after this, so onegaishimasu 🙇
🫧: On my [radio] program, JUNON guested when I was doing SMS promotions, but this is new for me too. I’m more nervous than usual actually, haha.
☕: Really?
🫧: I have a drink before doing these, hahaha 🤣
🐢: Oh right, then we can do that too 🤣
🫧: Timing!
🫧: I’ll briefly introduce BE:FIRST and MAZZEL – basically, very cool ✨ 🔥
🫧: We have a few themes to talk about today. One is if we make a song together, what kind of song would it be?
🐢: Oh! Good question~
🫧: It’s block.fm so music first – so we’re also going to choose songs [to play] based on our musical roots. For me, it’s Jpop and J RnB so that’s how I picked the guests too, 🐢’s music roots is Jpop and ☕’s is J Rnb.
🫧: Have you done these kind of radio [programs] before?
☕: Not really / 🐢: We do
☕: Really? MAZZEL RADIO is…
🐢: MAZZEL RADIO sounds really interesting
🫧: MAZZEL RADIO?
☕: We touch on music too in MAZZEL RADIO, but we’re quite casual in it, and I’m kinda like that
🫧: Well, during SMS we were also quite casual, so relax and just take it easy 😊
🐢, ☕: Okay~
[Aile The Shota picks “Grow Up” and asks 🐢 to introduce it]
🫧: It’s good isn’t it?
☕: I love this song so much!
🫧thinks BE:FIRST’s a group backed by great producers of Jpop and it’s one of their strengths. He likes “Grow Up” from their 4th single a lot because it’s mesmerizing (and is a UK garage sound).
☕’s happy for them and also jealous
Due to this single 🐢’s had a chance to listen to UK garage type of music a lot, and he thinks it’s something he can get into.
🫧 ‘s impression of 🐢is that he’s into Jpop.
🫧: So 🐢 don’t really listen to this type of music?
🐢: I’m not very familiar with genres.. More like, I came to understand the genres, but personally there’s no category for me. I kinda listen [to music] based on my mood, so I kind of listen to a bit of everything?
🐢 also likes movies so he’ll listen to music based on what he’s watched.
🫧: It’s so hard to introduce BE:FIRST as a group though – what do you usually say?
🐢: Eh? What do we say?
🐢: Idiots! / 🫧: Idiots?
☕: So a group of seven idiots?
🫧: You can’t say that 😂
🫧: BE:FIRST doesn’t really have a genre, you have UK garage sound for “Grow Up” and “SOS” which leans towards US RnB more.
🐢: That’s right~
☕: Hey, I was gonna say that! I mean, yes, that’s right.
🐢: We’ve said before that we’re a genreless group.. So I don’t think we will say “we’re doing THIS kind of music”...
🫧: Mmm, that really is “BE:FIRST” isn’t it, because “Softly”...
☕: Ahhh!
🫧: Mori Zentaro produced that, and “Grow Up” was produced by SUNNY BOY (☕: Uweehh?). Your producers have been pretty lit. You’ve also had Chaki Zulu too of course, BGB was by Chaki Zulu…
☕: I was very shocked when I found out.
🫧: He has it on display, BGB, when you go to his recording studio.
🐢: Oh really? He does?
🐢, ☕: Heeehhhhh~
🫧: I think it’s great
🐢: That makes me happy~ 😊
JUNON
🫧: There’s a lot of music lovers listening to block.fm so hope you guys check these songs out.
🫧: 🐢recommend a song to play.
🐢: From BE:FIRST?
☕: There’s a lot isn’t it?
🐢: I dunno what to pick~ Because it’s not like we only do songs like “Grow Up”... We don’t do just that… Maybe “Mainstream” then?
🫧: It’s the most recent single too.
🫧: Try and introduce BE:FIRST again, haha
🐢: Again? OK… Each individual member has their own taste and we’ve all experienced different things.
🫧: I think the fact that you can’t explain what BE:FIRST is like as a group is also a good thing (☕: mm!!)
🐢: There’s no one word right
🫧: I think it’s a group that you come to understand only after you’ve listened and watched them.
🐢: True.. and our lives are good, I’m pretty confident about that.
🫧: Spend 1 hour looking up BE:FIRST on YouTube~ (🐢: Thank you~) MAZZEL too of course. (☕: Thank you!)
KAIRYU
🫧: What does ☕ like about BE:FIRST?
☕: Hmm, well… Why are you all smiling 😂
🐢, 🫧: 🤣
🐢: I’ve been waiting to hear this so
☕: I participated in the audition that created BE:FIRST, and I auditioned because I was moved by SKY-HI’s words [about THE FIRST]. So it’s like.. They’re a group that is formed from what he said… While BE:FIRST’s my senior [in BMSG], I’m also a big fan.
🐢: I auditioned so I saw those same words he said too, I’m happy to hear that.
🫧: Do you remember them? Music First…
🐢, 🫧: Creative First
🫧: Quality First
🐢, 🫧: Artisism First
🫧: Let’s play something from MAZZEL now, I’ll give it to ☕
☕: Please listen to MAZZEL’s “Fantasy”!
[After FANTASY plays]
🫧: It’s very J-RnB isn’t it
☕: Yes!
[more about FANTASY]
☕: I listened to this song during the auditions. My first reaction is probably on video, but I was with REIKO. He’s listened to RnB a lot too (from overseas).. “Fantasy” is produced by Matt Cab and Kenya. I’m a huge fan so I couldn’t stop smiling.
🫧: BBY NABE is there too, it’s an insane line up!
🫧explains MAZZEL – the second boy group formed from the MISSIONx2 auditions. ☕was a part of THE FIRST and signed on to BMSG as a Trainee, joining the MISSIONx2 auditions later on.
🫧: FANTASY was one of the assigned songs?
☕: Yes
🫧: I heard about this song from REIKO and I got so jealous that I thought, “This is for me!!”
🐢: We were too!
Aile The Shota
🫧: I think what’s great about MAZZEL…. 🤔 ☕is a big part of that.
☕: Really? Thank you~
🫧: You have a lot of members from a street dancing background..
☕: We do~
🫧: I’ve never seen a group like this before… You’d just start to freestyle or do a dance cypher in your lives.
☕: 😂😂😂 I’m mostly at the back watching them
🫧: It’s usually 4 people…
☕: Yeah, it’s usually 4 😂
🫧: I’d think, “this is a dance battle” or “I usually see this in a club!”
🫧: But like BE:FIRST, I think MAZZEL’s a group with strong musicality and “made in Japan” signature, but what does ☕think?
KAIRYU
☕: Is 🐢waiting for this too? (a reference to when 🐢 said he’s curious what ☕thought of BE:FIRST)
☕: I think… more than BE:FIRST, the members of MAZZEL have gone through a lot of different paths. I don’t have a good way of saying this, but we’re all kind of scattered
🫧: Mm, I get that – but it’s in a positive way.
☕: There are times when our [tastes in] music don’t match
🫧: That’s interesting, because you have members who listen to Kpop
☕: Yes, there’s a lot of us.
☕: I think if we were to call ourselves genreless we could…
🫧: How many songs have you got now?
☕: If you include the upcoming single…
🫧: You guys debuted in May too, wow.
☕: ? Just now [he's joking around, haha]
🫧: You say that like you debuted just a minute ago, haha 😂
JUNON
🫧: As a senpai, what does 🐢think? Though we don’t really have senpai / kouhai going on at all really!
☕: Please tell us 🐢senpai! ( 🫧: 🐢senpai!)
🐢: Whether it’s our debut or MAZZEL’s, I think it was pretty fast. (🫧: Very fast!)
🐢: I thought they were ready from the get-go.. Their performances were great, their talks are good, and they’ve got it covered.
☕: Uwah~ I’m soo happy right now!
🐢: As a junior group, I think they’re very reliable
☕: Wow!
🫧: And I think you can’t find a similar relationship that BE:FIRST and MAZZEL has anywhere else
🐢, ☕: True
🐢: There are two people who participated in the same audition as us [RAN, KAIRYU], so.. There’s no hierarchy…
🫧: It’s good right, but yeah how do we put this…
☕: Right? I don’t know either
🐢: Like friends?
🫧: And a family, BMSG’s like that. To me, it’s like you are rivals. Not in a bad way. It’s a friendly rivalry between boy groups.
🐢: We have songs we’re jealous of… haha! 🤣🤣🤣
🫧: As Aile The Shota, my favorite groups are BE:FIRST and MAZZEL (🐢, ☕: Thank you~)
🫧: By the time this airs we would’ve finished BMSG FES ‘23, but we’ve just finished the Tokyo Shows recording this, so we’re in between Shows (☕: Yes!). To celebrate, let’s kanpai!
🐢: Yay! / ☕: Fo real?
🫧: What do you guys want? High ball?
🐢: High ball!
☕: Same! We should do this on MAZZEL RADIO some time…
[I think Shota was asking Ju what he wanted?]
🐢: It doesn’t matter as long as I can drink!
☕: As long as it’s alcohol?
🫧: It seems it’s something only I get to do [on this radio program]
🐢: So exclusive only to ATS?
🫧: I think so, I don’t really know.
🫧: Ready?
[KANPAI]
☕: I haven’t done that on radio before!
They started talking about BMSG FES ‘23 streaming on Hulu and the cinema screening. None of them have been to a screening like that.
☕: Is it kind of like live-viewing?
🫧: I dunno, I’ve never been…
🐢: I’ve been to ones for soccer matches. If someone makes a goal we all cheer out loud
☕: Wait, they screen soccer matches in cinemas?
🐢: For World Cups they do
[Back to BMSG FES ‘23]
🫧: It’s really a festival isn’t it, all 23 of us. Like a “This is what BMSG is” festival.
🐢: Each artist has their own block right, so even if you don’t know all the artists you can treat it like a music festival. There are many artists performing.
☕: You see artists before they debut too. I haven’t heard of this besides here at BMSG.
🐢: The Trainees are really amazing though right? Are we going to be OK?
☕: It gets you anxious!
🫧: They got UTA to write a song for them too, for the Trainees… It feels weird calling them that though, they’re full-fledged artists.
🐢: Right? Because don’t they release songs?
🫧: They do!
☕: I’m jealous! And it’s before they debut!
🐢: Same~
🫧: I hope people who - even if they only know one BE:FIRST song - check [the Trainees] out, know their names… Or if they’ve only listened to J-underground music…
☕: It’s one reason to see BMSG.
🫧: Right?
☕: There are obviously people who support BE:FIRST and MAZZEL, but there may be people who are stanning boy groups for the first time, or listening to these kind of music for the first time… That’s why I’m always so happy about Shota’s songs.
🫧: Thank you! 😊
☕: It’s like, a very positive look at the music industry and what you can gain from it, it’s why I want people to pay attention to BMSG
🐢: Definitely.
🫧: What music is in Japan, and.. How to say, make it bigger? Yeah.
☕: Yeah!
🫧: That is BMSG FES. Watch it!
☕: Watch it!
🐢: You better watch it!
ALL: 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
🫧: It’s a festival. The coolest one in Japan. Please check it out
🫧: We’re finally getting into the topics today!
☕: Finally? / 🐢: Aren’t we like halfway through already?
🫧: 🤣🤣🤣🤣
🫧: I usually keep track of time, but I’m just a mess today. I didn’t even have my stopwatch going. So it’s “If the three of us make a song together, what kind of song would it be?”
🫧: Even though I’m a solo artist, what’s great about BMSG is there’s no borders. Like even a solo artist like me, I was able to collab with JUNON, LEO, and SKY-HI on “Tiger Style”.
🫧: But us three here – quite amazing right?
☕: Definitely!
🫧: On the creative side… ☕ do you do any of that in your group?
☕: No, but I’m really interested in creating something
🫧: So you haven’t written a melody line or anything?
☕: No
🫧: Amazing~
☕: I do like arranging though
🫧: We had the Creativity Screening in our audition… That’s how 🐢
🐢: Mm, that was my first time too
🫧: Then as BE:FIRST too,
🐢: Mm..
🫧: Recently? No?
🐢: Recently….
🫧: Well, you had “Grateful Pain”
🐢: “Grateful Pain” and,,, “Kick Start”. That’s not recent though, we did that right after the auditions…
🫧: In my case I’ve written a lot, since becoming Aile The Shota. I was talking with my manager and we were like, since being ATS you’ve written a lot of songs!
🐢: I remember listening to your song a lot after hearing it at the audition
🫧: But I think we can create something good from this.
☕: So not as nabepotato?
🫧: You know your stuff! 2 names before ATS!
☕: It’s not before ATS?
🫧: There was Yum Ferri
☕: Oh, is that right!
🫧: I released one song under that and [the name] died. Then I partook in the audition so I changed.
☕: Heeehh~
🫧: Anyway, enough about me.
🫧: You didn’t write the melody line (☕: No) but was BMSG WEST’s “The Moon in the WEST” your first try at songwriting?
☕: I’m not good at English, so the English was all
🫧: It was Reichan?
☕: I sing a lot of the English [in “The Moon in the WEST], but I’m actually awful. I had Reichan teach me the English parts and we did the harmonies.
🐢: That was super good~
ATS: Kimi ni Muchuu / Utada Hikaru
🫧likes songs that have a kick in the melody line or something that repeats. A-melo, B-melo, chorus. His favourite artists: DREAMS COME TRUE, Utada Hikaru have similar music compositions in their songs, but their roots are all in RnB.
☕’s interest in songs came from Japanese folk songs. Rather than a song, he was drawn by the voices instead. No one in his family is very interested in music, but he was good at remembering CM songs and copying them. [There’s probably some part I missed but] at some point, he started covering Tokunanga’s songs and that’s how his interest in music deepened. His interest in RnB led him to Kpop but right now he likes RnB in general.
🫧: What kind of Kpop?
☕: I like SM
🐢: Your melody arrangements are very SM…
☕: I had a period of time where I really liked them and thought they were the best
🫧: So NCT? Or earlier?
☕: EXO, ShiNee, Super Junior, SNSD
🫧: Ah, from that period of time~
☕: That was my youth. I got so into it I went to Korea and got into Korea’s RnB
🫧: Then you liked JRnB
☕: Yes
🫧: KAIRYU could still use Instagram when he was a Trainee, and Youtube. He did covers, including JRnB. So I thought he loves the genre, and he was pretty amazing in THE FIRST wasn’t he?
🐢: He was~ I remembered him well! Obayashi Kairyu. I thought his singing was insane. You were so good.
☕: Wait, really? 🥺
☕: Even in JRnB there are times when there are Japanese elements in it right
🫧: I want to listen to your covers again, as KAIRYU of MAZZEL
☕: I still have the YT channel, I’m thinking of using it to post something even though I’m part of MAZZEL now.
🫧: That’s true! And you can do that because we’re BMSG
☕: That’s true! Boss!!
🐢, 🫧: 🤣🤣🤣🤣
🐢’s music background is completely from his family (☕: So nice!). He’d be taken to lives (🫧: Nice!). For him, there wasn’t an artist he admired or wanted to become, and more of what he liked so it’s all over the place. Similar [to ☕] he got into Kpop around end of high school - college, and went to Korea. He doesn’t really remember.
🫧: I feel there’s a lot of these people in BMSG. Honestly, many started from Kpop. There isn’t like anyone who is, “I love this person!”. Then there’s people who like AAA, and Hidaka CEO is in there. I think because we’re like that, that’s why our boy groups, 7 or 8-members your personalities are all different. That’s why “let’s do a song like this” we’re all quick to get on board, in a good way.
🐢: We adapt pretty well
🫧: I think between broad and shallow relationships, BMSG’s somewhere on the deep end.
☕: Wow!
🫧: We get very deep sometimes, don’t we?
🐢: We do
🫧: What are we talking about again? LOL 😂
🫧: What song we wanted to make! Right! Sorry, I got too interested in the musical roots talk.
JUNON: Yuushinron / RADWIMPS
🫧: They’re very made in Japan aren’t they
🐢: The Jpop Star of Jpop Stars
🐢: It’s a song of my youth. I remember singing this in karaoke all the time back in middle school
☕ didn’t have anyone who would go karaoke with him.
☕: I think the first time friends saw me sing was when they saw me on THE FIRST
🐢, 🫧: Really??
☕: They didn’t know I was auditioning either
🫧: So you didn’t have the average middle school (going to karaoke with friends) experience.
☕: None at all. My musical roots was all me figuring things out and finding them on my own, somewhat 😂
🫧: But I can see that in you
🫧: But I think Kairyu’s strength is that you didn’t have the average experience
🐢: I think so too
🫧: I don’t usually make the beats. I usually need a producer to help me with that
☕: So anything goes?
🫧: Yeah! Go ahead!
☕: I really hope he can make something for us one day, but I would like Code Kunst to produce a song. He’s a South Korean producer, under a company called AOMG. He has an album called “People” that I really love.
🫧: I like his song, “Take Me”
☕: I hope we can cross over and do something with Kpop producers
🫧: Boss has a song with a Korean producer (☕: What, really!?), featuring SALU. They go by “GroovyRoom”. It’s called “Goodbye To The System”
🫧: Boss has worked with a few Korean producers, so it’s totally possible
☕: Heeehhhh
🫧: I mean, everyone has Insta right, you can just DM…
☕: We’re really in this kind of era now? OMG…
🫧: Me too, with Apoki, A-P-O-K-I. They’re a CG animation artist. I liked them so I gave them a follow, they followed back, and they’ll give me a “like” from time to time…
🐢: They followed you back? (🫧: They did!)
🫧: Neither of us can English very well, but we try
☕: Kpop has a lot of rapping and then singing interwoven together.
🐢: Kpop has a lot of chill-y songs right. With minimal beats. It makes the notes super clear and easy to listen to (☕: It’s great!!)
🫧: OK then, so we want someone from Korea for the producer right? Wait, it’s like we’re actually going to do it, haha! Let’s write a proposal first, lol. Code Kunst?
🫧: Shall we move on to the next step? We’ve got a producer.
🐢: But what stage are we at now?
☕: I don’t even know where we’re at now from our script
🫧: Time to go home! We’re all drunk!
ALL: 🤣🤣🤣🤣
☕: Where am I?
🫧: I dunno where we are either
🫧: We can decide who’s in charge of what parts.. But it’s kind of hard sometimes right?
🐢: Yeah, sometimes only when you get in the recording booth…
🫧: We’ll get the beat right, one chorus – then ☕ can do pre-recording in alien language… Then 🐢… I think both of you can do the melody line. Both of you will probably make the chorus. Then what ever you two got we slowly link / connect it to build it up to the chorus…
☕: This sounds awesome already 🥺
🫧: HAPPY TEARS was made like this
🐢, ☕: Eeeeehhhhh??
🫧: Me and Novel Core
🫧: We freestyle the melody and then connected it to create that song
☕: Heehhhh, I love thattt
🫧: If [what’s made] is good then we make the hook before the bridge. The hook can be two-parts leading the bridge [I think that’s what he says]. The verse can be rapper verse haha. You can go crazy with it, haha
☕: I quite like singing-rapping.
🫧: As for lyrics, well, we’ll do our best. We’ll probably fuss over it, enough to warrant staying at my house or something.
☕: 🤣🤣🤣🤣
🐢: That’ll be fun actually!
🫧: You’re serious? (🐢: I think I’ll have fun!) Let’s do it then!
🐢: I want to!
☕: We should then, definitely!
🫧: Hidaka-san probably has a lot of beats, we can get one from him~
☕: 🤣🤣🤣
🫧: “Can you give us one that sounds like this?” and we’ll get one
🫧: So yeah, I think we can do an RnB song like that.
☕: It’s RnB in the end~
🫧: You can do RnB right? (To 🐢)
🐢: I like RnB, a lot
☕: You can do it!
🫧: We decided on RnB
🐢, ☕: Yes!
🫧: Yay! 🎉
🐢, ☕: 👏👏👏👏👏👏
🐢: Looking forward to it~
🫧: Korean RnB followed by a hook that is easy on the Japanese listeners… an emotional melody… This is definitely a great song!
☕: 🤣🤣🤣🤣
🫧: It’s like, why haven’t we done one yet?
☕: I hope boss is listening!
🫧: I’ll let ☕play his JRnB song
🐢: You’re good at this!
☕: Please listen to HONDA by Friday Night Plans
[After HONDA / Friday Night Plans]
🫧: I was kinda confused, because there’s a lot of English in the lyrics
☕: That’s Friday Night Plans – they don’t sing Japanese much if at all
🫧: They did a cover of “Plastic Love” too
🫧: I kinda want our song to sound like this, this beat
☕, 🐢: Yeahhhh!
[song still plays]
🫧: Oh but I like this part too. I can’t choose, which beat should I ask for~
🫧: But it looks like our program’s near ending
☕: Ehh?
🫧: I wasn’t keeping time really well, it’s already ending. We’ve talked for about an hour
🫧: But having some alcohol while on radio is refreshing
🐢: It was fun~
☕: Rather than refreshing it’s the first time for me lmao!
🫧: This was fun right?
🐢: Yeah~
🫧: The fact that block.fm allows this is amazing
🐢: Yes!
☕: Thank you! [block.fm] I want to come more often!
At the end they talk about wanting to watch the movie screening of BMSG FES ‘23
🫧: We’re always behind / performing, we’ve never seen it from the front / audience
🐢, ☕: Let’s go! Sounds good!
🐢: We’re really going? It’s not a lie
🫧: Really. No cap
🐢: We’re just recording in a room with alcohol. Which so happens to have mics
🫧: It’s very private isn’t it?
☕: It is!
☕: This is probably also a very different KAIRYU from MAZZEL RADIO Kairyu haha!
🫧: You don’t need to be so nervous!
To close, Shota will play one of his songs, but he also asks them which of his songs they like
🫧: I know 🐢likes Pandora
🐢,🫧: 🤣🤣🤣🤣
🫧: And ☕ actually did a cover of “Aurora TOKIO”
☕: I did!
🫧: So I think we’ll wrap it up here by playing “Aurora TOKIO”...
🫧: I want to do a BMSG special again
☕: I wanna do this as often as we can ✨
🫧: The same line up?
☕: I still have a lot I want to say!
🐢: Someone from BE:FIRST and MAZZEL, with Shochan as the main, and we all just take turns.
🫧: Then there’s at least seven of this! Hahahaha! I want to do something on Youtube though
☕: Ohhh!
🫧: [When it’s out] come round to play~
🐢: Or like an instalive would be good right?
🫧: While drinking alcohol?
🐢: Not bad is it?
ALL: 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
🫧: Stop, I’m actually not a strong drinker haha.
🫧: Ok, to sign off… This has been BE:FIRST’s
🐢: JUNON! [he sounds tipsy lmao]
🫧: And MAZZEL’s..
☕: KAIRYU! I’m absolutely red right now
ALL: 🤣🤣🤣🤣
🫧: And Aile The Shota~ Until next time~
❄️AURORA TOKIO plays✨
Hope you found their discussion interesting!
Please note I translate these for free, so they may not be super perfect.
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Aile The Shota 🫧
JUNON (BE:FIRST) 🐢
KAIRYU (MAZZEL) ☕
They got to share their musical roots, song recommendations, and had a topic they needed to discuss!
"If they could make a song together, what would it be like?"
Check out what their answer is under the cut! ^^
Intro
🫧: I’m going to be the M– (stumbled on his words)
☕: You alright?
🫧: Ate my words, haha
🫧: It’s fine, you guys can talk too 😊
🐢, ☕: Hello everyone~
🐢: Is this OK? We haven’t been [properly] introduced, haha.
🫧: Then before you guys come on, I’ll explain what BMSG is.
🫧: BMSG is a company established by SKY-HI, probably the coolest one out there, right?
🐢, ☕: Yes!
🫧: Solo Artists we’ve got SKY-Hi, Novel Core, Aile The Shota, edhiii boi, REIKO, dance+vocal group.. Dance+vocal?. What do you guys usually say?
🐢, ☕: Dance+vocal group
🫧: … Dance+vocal group BE:FIRST and MAZZEL, and we have Trainees too. TAIKI, RUI, KANON, 23 of us~ Today’s program will be brought to you by me, Aile The Shota. I’ll introduce the first guest, BE:FIRST’s JUNON!
🐢: Hi everyone~
🫧: BE:FIRST’s JUNON (desu)
🐢: desu!
🫧, 🐢: 🤣🤣🤣🤣
🫧: And from MAZZEL, KAIRYU
☕: Hi everyone, it’s KAIRYU
🫧: This is quite a new combination right?
🐢: Very (☕: Yeah)
☕: I’m excited about it, but I haven’t talked to both of you much. I want to be closer after this, so onegaishimasu 🙇
🫧: On my [radio] program, JUNON guested when I was doing SMS promotions, but this is new for me too. I’m more nervous than usual actually, haha.
☕: Really?
🫧: I have a drink before doing these, hahaha 🤣
🐢: Oh right, then we can do that too 🤣
🫧: Timing!
🫧: I’ll briefly introduce BE:FIRST and MAZZEL – basically, very cool ✨ 🔥
Topic: Introduction
🫧: We have a few themes to talk about today. One is if we make a song together, what kind of song would it be?
🐢: Oh! Good question~
🫧: It’s block.fm so music first – so we’re also going to choose songs [to play] based on our musical roots. For me, it’s Jpop and J RnB so that’s how I picked the guests too, 🐢’s music roots is Jpop and ☕’s is J Rnb.
🫧: Have you done these kind of radio [programs] before?
☕: Not really / 🐢: We do
☕: Really? MAZZEL RADIO is…
🐢: MAZZEL RADIO sounds really interesting
🫧: MAZZEL RADIO?
☕: We touch on music too in MAZZEL RADIO, but we’re quite casual in it, and I’m kinda like that
🫧: Well, during SMS we were also quite casual, so relax and just take it easy 😊
🐢, ☕: Okay~
[Aile The Shota picks “Grow Up” and asks 🐢 to introduce it]
🫧: It’s good isn’t it?
☕: I love this song so much!
About Mainstream, the single
🫧thinks BE:FIRST’s a group backed by great producers of Jpop and it’s one of their strengths. He likes “Grow Up” from their 4th single a lot because it’s mesmerizing (and is a UK garage sound).
☕’s happy for them and also jealous
Due to this single 🐢’s had a chance to listen to UK garage type of music a lot, and he thinks it’s something he can get into.
🫧 ‘s impression of 🐢is that he’s into Jpop.
🫧: So 🐢 don’t really listen to this type of music?
🐢: I’m not very familiar with genres.. More like, I came to understand the genres, but personally there’s no category for me. I kinda listen [to music] based on my mood, so I kind of listen to a bit of everything?
🐢 also likes movies so he’ll listen to music based on what he’s watched.
About BE:FIRST
🫧: It’s so hard to introduce BE:FIRST as a group though – what do you usually say?
🐢: Eh? What do we say?
🐢: Idiots! / 🫧: Idiots?
☕: So a group of seven idiots?
🫧: You can’t say that 😂
About the producers behind BE:FIRST's songs
🫧: BE:FIRST doesn’t really have a genre, you have UK garage sound for “Grow Up” and “SOS” which leans towards US RnB more.
🐢: That’s right~
☕: Hey, I was gonna say that! I mean, yes, that’s right.
🐢: We’ve said before that we’re a genreless group.. So I don’t think we will say “we’re doing THIS kind of music”...
🫧: Mmm, that really is “BE:FIRST” isn’t it, because “Softly”...
☕: Ahhh!
🫧: Mori Zentaro produced that, and “Grow Up” was produced by SUNNY BOY (☕: Uweehh?). Your producers have been pretty lit. You’ve also had Chaki Zulu too of course, BGB was by Chaki Zulu…
☕: I was very shocked when I found out.
🫧: He has it on display, BGB, when you go to his recording studio.
🐢: Oh really? He does?
🐢, ☕: Heeehhhhh~
🫧: I think it’s great
🐢: That makes me happy~ 😊
How does JUNON & KAIRYU see BE:FIRST?
JUNON
🫧: There’s a lot of music lovers listening to block.fm so hope you guys check these songs out.
🫧: 🐢recommend a song to play.
🐢: From BE:FIRST?
☕: There’s a lot isn’t it?
🐢: I dunno what to pick~ Because it’s not like we only do songs like “Grow Up”... We don’t do just that… Maybe “Mainstream” then?
🫧: It’s the most recent single too.
🫧: Try and introduce BE:FIRST again, haha
🐢: Again? OK… Each individual member has their own taste and we’ve all experienced different things.
🫧: I think the fact that you can’t explain what BE:FIRST is like as a group is also a good thing (☕: mm!!)
🐢: There’s no one word right
🫧: I think it’s a group that you come to understand only after you’ve listened and watched them.
🐢: True.. and our lives are good, I’m pretty confident about that.
🫧: Spend 1 hour looking up BE:FIRST on YouTube~ (🐢: Thank you~) MAZZEL too of course. (☕: Thank you!)
KAIRYU
🫧: What does ☕ like about BE:FIRST?
☕: Hmm, well… Why are you all smiling 😂
🐢, 🫧: 🤣
🐢: I’ve been waiting to hear this so
☕: I participated in the audition that created BE:FIRST, and I auditioned because I was moved by SKY-HI’s words [about THE FIRST]. So it’s like.. They’re a group that is formed from what he said… While BE:FIRST’s my senior [in BMSG], I’m also a big fan.
🐢: I auditioned so I saw those same words he said too, I’m happy to hear that.
🫧: Do you remember them? Music First…
🐢, 🫧: Creative First
🫧: Quality First
🐢, 🫧: Artisism First
🫧: Let’s play something from MAZZEL now, I’ll give it to ☕
☕: Please listen to MAZZEL’s “Fantasy”!
[After FANTASY plays]
🫧: It’s very J-RnB isn’t it
☕: Yes!
[more about FANTASY]
☕: I listened to this song during the auditions. My first reaction is probably on video, but I was with REIKO. He’s listened to RnB a lot too (from overseas).. “Fantasy” is produced by Matt Cab and Kenya. I’m a huge fan so I couldn’t stop smiling.
🫧: BBY NABE is there too, it’s an insane line up!
How does ATS, KAIRYU & JUNON see MAZZEL?
🫧explains MAZZEL – the second boy group formed from the MISSIONx2 auditions. ☕was a part of THE FIRST and signed on to BMSG as a Trainee, joining the MISSIONx2 auditions later on.
🫧: FANTASY was one of the assigned songs?
☕: Yes
🫧: I heard about this song from REIKO and I got so jealous that I thought, “This is for me!!”
🐢: We were too!
Aile The Shota
🫧: I think what’s great about MAZZEL…. 🤔 ☕is a big part of that.
☕: Really? Thank you~
🫧: You have a lot of members from a street dancing background..
☕: We do~
🫧: I’ve never seen a group like this before… You’d just start to freestyle or do a dance cypher in your lives.
☕: 😂😂😂 I’m mostly at the back watching them
🫧: It’s usually 4 people…
☕: Yeah, it’s usually 4 😂
🫧: I’d think, “this is a dance battle” or “I usually see this in a club!”
🫧: But like BE:FIRST, I think MAZZEL’s a group with strong musicality and “made in Japan” signature, but what does ☕think?
KAIRYU
☕: Is 🐢waiting for this too? (a reference to when 🐢 said he’s curious what ☕thought of BE:FIRST)
☕: I think… more than BE:FIRST, the members of MAZZEL have gone through a lot of different paths. I don’t have a good way of saying this, but we’re all kind of scattered
🫧: Mm, I get that – but it’s in a positive way.
☕: There are times when our [tastes in] music don’t match
🫧: That’s interesting, because you have members who listen to Kpop
☕: Yes, there’s a lot of us.
☕: I think if we were to call ourselves genreless we could…
🫧: How many songs have you got now?
☕: If you include the upcoming single…
🫧: You guys debuted in May too, wow.
☕: ? Just now [he's joking around, haha]
🫧: You say that like you debuted just a minute ago, haha 😂
JUNON
🫧: As a senpai, what does 🐢think? Though we don’t really have senpai / kouhai going on at all really!
☕: Please tell us 🐢senpai! ( 🫧: 🐢senpai!)
🐢: Whether it’s our debut or MAZZEL’s, I think it was pretty fast. (🫧: Very fast!)
🐢: I thought they were ready from the get-go.. Their performances were great, their talks are good, and they’ve got it covered.
☕: Uwah~ I’m soo happy right now!
🐢: As a junior group, I think they’re very reliable
☕: Wow!
🫧: And I think you can’t find a similar relationship that BE:FIRST and MAZZEL has anywhere else
🐢, ☕: True
🐢: There are two people who participated in the same audition as us [RAN, KAIRYU], so.. There’s no hierarchy…
🫧: It’s good right, but yeah how do we put this…
☕: Right? I don’t know either
🐢: Like friends?
🫧: And a family, BMSG’s like that. To me, it’s like you are rivals. Not in a bad way. It’s a friendly rivalry between boy groups.
🐢: We have songs we’re jealous of… haha! 🤣🤣🤣
🫧: As Aile The Shota, my favorite groups are BE:FIRST and MAZZEL (🐢, ☕: Thank you~)
KANPAI TIME~
🫧: By the time this airs we would’ve finished BMSG FES ‘23, but we’ve just finished the Tokyo Shows recording this, so we’re in between Shows (☕: Yes!). To celebrate, let’s kanpai!
🐢: Yay! / ☕: Fo real?
🫧: What do you guys want? High ball?
🐢: High ball!
☕: Same! We should do this on MAZZEL RADIO some time…
[I think Shota was asking Ju what he wanted?]
🐢: It doesn’t matter as long as I can drink!
☕: As long as it’s alcohol?
🫧: It seems it’s something only I get to do [on this radio program]
🐢: So exclusive only to ATS?
🫧: I think so, I don’t really know.
🫧: Ready?
[KANPAI]
☕: I haven’t done that on radio before!
BMSG FES '23 Talk
They started talking about BMSG FES ‘23 streaming on Hulu and the cinema screening. None of them have been to a screening like that.
☕: Is it kind of like live-viewing?
🫧: I dunno, I’ve never been…
🐢: I’ve been to ones for soccer matches. If someone makes a goal we all cheer out loud
☕: Wait, they screen soccer matches in cinemas?
🐢: For World Cups they do
[Back to BMSG FES ‘23]
🫧: It’s really a festival isn’t it, all 23 of us. Like a “This is what BMSG is” festival.
🐢: Each artist has their own block right, so even if you don’t know all the artists you can treat it like a music festival. There are many artists performing.
☕: You see artists before they debut too. I haven’t heard of this besides here at BMSG.
🐢: The Trainees are really amazing though right? Are we going to be OK?
☕: It gets you anxious!
🫧: They got UTA to write a song for them too, for the Trainees… It feels weird calling them that though, they’re full-fledged artists.
🐢: Right? Because don’t they release songs?
🫧: They do!
☕: I’m jealous! And it’s before they debut!
🐢: Same~
🫧: I hope people who - even if they only know one BE:FIRST song - check [the Trainees] out, know their names… Or if they’ve only listened to J-underground music…
☕: It’s one reason to see BMSG.
🫧: Right?
☕: There are obviously people who support BE:FIRST and MAZZEL, but there may be people who are stanning boy groups for the first time, or listening to these kind of music for the first time… That’s why I’m always so happy about Shota’s songs.
🫧: Thank you! 😊
☕: It’s like, a very positive look at the music industry and what you can gain from it, it’s why I want people to pay attention to BMSG
🐢: Definitely.
🫧: What music is in Japan, and.. How to say, make it bigger? Yeah.
☕: Yeah!
🫧: That is BMSG FES. Watch it!
☕: Watch it!
🐢: You better watch it!
ALL: 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
🫧: It’s a festival. The coolest one in Japan. Please check it out
Creativity in BMSG
🫧: We’re finally getting into the topics today!
☕: Finally? / 🐢: Aren’t we like halfway through already?
🫧: 🤣🤣🤣🤣
🫧: I usually keep track of time, but I’m just a mess today. I didn’t even have my stopwatch going. So it’s “If the three of us make a song together, what kind of song would it be?”
🫧: Even though I’m a solo artist, what’s great about BMSG is there’s no borders. Like even a solo artist like me, I was able to collab with JUNON, LEO, and SKY-HI on “Tiger Style”.
🫧: But us three here – quite amazing right?
☕: Definitely!
🫧: On the creative side… ☕ do you do any of that in your group?
☕: No, but I’m really interested in creating something
🫧: So you haven’t written a melody line or anything?
☕: No
🫧: Amazing~
☕: I do like arranging though
🫧: We had the Creativity Screening in our audition… That’s how 🐢
🐢: Mm, that was my first time too
🫧: Then as BE:FIRST too,
🐢: Mm..
🫧: Recently? No?
🐢: Recently….
🫧: Well, you had “Grateful Pain”
🐢: “Grateful Pain” and,,, “Kick Start”. That’s not recent though, we did that right after the auditions…
Many names Shota had before ATS
🫧: In my case I’ve written a lot, since becoming Aile The Shota. I was talking with my manager and we were like, since being ATS you’ve written a lot of songs!
🐢: I remember listening to your song a lot after hearing it at the audition
🫧: But I think we can create something good from this.
☕: So not as nabepotato?
🫧: You know your stuff! 2 names before ATS!
☕: It’s not before ATS?
🫧: There was Yum Ferri
☕: Oh, is that right!
🫧: I released one song under that and [the name] died. Then I partook in the audition so I changed.
☕: Heeehh~
🫧: Anyway, enough about me.
About The Moon in the West
🫧: You didn’t write the melody line (☕: No) but was BMSG WEST’s “The Moon in the WEST” your first try at songwriting?
☕: I’m not good at English, so the English was all
🫧: It was Reichan?
☕: I sing a lot of the English [in “The Moon in the WEST], but I’m actually awful. I had Reichan teach me the English parts and we did the harmonies.
🐢: That was super good~
Musical roots
ATS: Kimi ni Muchuu / Utada Hikaru
🫧likes songs that have a kick in the melody line or something that repeats. A-melo, B-melo, chorus. His favourite artists: DREAMS COME TRUE, Utada Hikaru have similar music compositions in their songs, but their roots are all in RnB.
☕’s interest in songs came from Japanese folk songs. Rather than a song, he was drawn by the voices instead. No one in his family is very interested in music, but he was good at remembering CM songs and copying them. [There’s probably some part I missed but] at some point, he started covering Tokunanga’s songs and that’s how his interest in music deepened. His interest in RnB led him to Kpop but right now he likes RnB in general.
🫧: What kind of Kpop?
☕: I like SM
🐢: Your melody arrangements are very SM…
☕: I had a period of time where I really liked them and thought they were the best
🫧: So NCT? Or earlier?
☕: EXO, ShiNee, Super Junior, SNSD
🫧: Ah, from that period of time~
☕: That was my youth. I got so into it I went to Korea and got into Korea’s RnB
🫧: Then you liked JRnB
☕: Yes
🫧: KAIRYU could still use Instagram when he was a Trainee, and Youtube. He did covers, including JRnB. So I thought he loves the genre, and he was pretty amazing in THE FIRST wasn’t he?
🐢: He was~ I remembered him well! Obayashi Kairyu. I thought his singing was insane. You were so good.
☕: Wait, really? 🥺
☕: Even in JRnB there are times when there are Japanese elements in it right
🫧: I want to listen to your covers again, as KAIRYU of MAZZEL
☕: I still have the YT channel, I’m thinking of using it to post something even though I’m part of MAZZEL now.
🫧: That’s true! And you can do that because we’re BMSG
☕: That’s true! Boss!!
🐢, 🫧: 🤣🤣🤣🤣
🐢’s music background is completely from his family (☕: So nice!). He’d be taken to lives (🫧: Nice!). For him, there wasn’t an artist he admired or wanted to become, and more of what he liked so it’s all over the place. Similar [to ☕] he got into Kpop around end of high school - college, and went to Korea. He doesn’t really remember.
🫧: I feel there’s a lot of these people in BMSG. Honestly, many started from Kpop. There isn’t like anyone who is, “I love this person!”. Then there’s people who like AAA, and Hidaka CEO is in there. I think because we’re like that, that’s why our boy groups, 7 or 8-members your personalities are all different. That’s why “let’s do a song like this” we’re all quick to get on board, in a good way.
🐢: We adapt pretty well
🫧: I think between broad and shallow relationships, BMSG’s somewhere on the deep end.
☕: Wow!
🫧: We get very deep sometimes, don’t we?
🐢: We do
🫧: What are we talking about again? LOL 😂
🫧: What song we wanted to make! Right! Sorry, I got too interested in the musical roots talk.
JUNON: Yuushinron / RADWIMPS
🫧: They’re very made in Japan aren’t they
🐢: The Jpop Star of Jpop Stars
🐢: It’s a song of my youth. I remember singing this in karaoke all the time back in middle school
☕ didn’t have anyone who would go karaoke with him.
☕: I think the first time friends saw me sing was when they saw me on THE FIRST
🐢, 🫧: Really??
☕: They didn’t know I was auditioning either
🫧: So you didn’t have the average middle school (going to karaoke with friends) experience.
☕: None at all. My musical roots was all me figuring things out and finding them on my own, somewhat 😂
🫧: But I can see that in you
🫧: But I think Kairyu’s strength is that you didn’t have the average experience
🐢: I think so too
Finally getting into topic...
🫧: I don’t usually make the beats. I usually need a producer to help me with that
☕: So anything goes?
🫧: Yeah! Go ahead!
☕: I really hope he can make something for us one day, but I would like Code Kunst to produce a song. He’s a South Korean producer, under a company called AOMG. He has an album called “People” that I really love.
🫧: I like his song, “Take Me”
☕: I hope we can cross over and do something with Kpop producers
🫧: Boss has a song with a Korean producer (☕: What, really!?), featuring SALU. They go by “GroovyRoom”. It’s called “Goodbye To The System”
🫧: Boss has worked with a few Korean producers, so it’s totally possible
☕: Heeehhhh
🫧: I mean, everyone has Insta right, you can just DM…
☕: We’re really in this kind of era now? OMG…
🫧: Me too, with Apoki, A-P-O-K-I. They’re a CG animation artist. I liked them so I gave them a follow, they followed back, and they’ll give me a “like” from time to time…
🐢: They followed you back? (🫧: They did!)
🫧: Neither of us can English very well, but we try
☕: Kpop has a lot of rapping and then singing interwoven together.
🐢: Kpop has a lot of chill-y songs right. With minimal beats. It makes the notes super clear and easy to listen to (☕: It’s great!!)
How HAPPY TEARS was made
🫧: OK then, so we want someone from Korea for the producer right? Wait, it’s like we’re actually going to do it, haha! Let’s write a proposal first, lol. Code Kunst?
🫧: Shall we move on to the next step? We’ve got a producer.
🐢: But what stage are we at now?
☕: I don’t even know where we’re at now from our script
🫧: Time to go home! We’re all drunk!
ALL: 🤣🤣🤣🤣
☕: Where am I?
🫧: I dunno where we are either
🫧: We can decide who’s in charge of what parts.. But it’s kind of hard sometimes right?
🐢: Yeah, sometimes only when you get in the recording booth…
🫧: We’ll get the beat right, one chorus – then ☕ can do pre-recording in alien language… Then 🐢… I think both of you can do the melody line. Both of you will probably make the chorus. Then what ever you two got we slowly link / connect it to build it up to the chorus…
☕: This sounds awesome already 🥺
🫧: HAPPY TEARS was made like this
🐢, ☕: Eeeeehhhhh??
🫧: Me and Novel Core
🫧: We freestyle the melody and then connected it to create that song
☕: Heehhhh, I love thattt
🫧: If [what’s made] is good then we make the hook before the bridge. The hook can be two-parts leading the bridge [I think that’s what he says]. The verse can be rapper verse haha. You can go crazy with it, haha
☕: I quite like singing-rapping.
Let's make the song!!!
🫧: As for lyrics, well, we’ll do our best. We’ll probably fuss over it, enough to warrant staying at my house or something.
☕: 🤣🤣🤣🤣
🐢: That’ll be fun actually!
🫧: You’re serious? (🐢: I think I’ll have fun!) Let’s do it then!
🐢: I want to!
☕: We should then, definitely!
🫧: Hidaka-san probably has a lot of beats, we can get one from him~
☕: 🤣🤣🤣
🫧: “Can you give us one that sounds like this?” and we’ll get one
🫧: So yeah, I think we can do an RnB song like that.
☕: It’s RnB in the end~
🫧: You can do RnB right? (To 🐢)
🐢: I like RnB, a lot
☕: You can do it!
🫧: We decided on RnB
🐢, ☕: Yes!
🫧: Yay! 🎉
🐢, ☕: 👏👏👏👏👏👏
🐢: Looking forward to it~
🫧: Korean RnB followed by a hook that is easy on the Japanese listeners… an emotional melody… This is definitely a great song!
☕: 🤣🤣🤣🤣
🫧: It’s like, why haven’t we done one yet?
☕: I hope boss is listening!
🫧: I’ll let ☕play his JRnB song
🐢: You’re good at this!
☕: Please listen to HONDA by Friday Night Plans
[After HONDA / Friday Night Plans]
🫧: I was kinda confused, because there’s a lot of English in the lyrics
☕: That’s Friday Night Plans – they don’t sing Japanese much if at all
🫧: They did a cover of “Plastic Love” too
🫧: I kinda want our song to sound like this, this beat
☕, 🐢: Yeahhhh!
[song still plays]
🫧: Oh but I like this part too. I can’t choose, which beat should I ask for~
Ending...
🫧: But it looks like our program’s near ending
☕: Ehh?
🫧: I wasn’t keeping time really well, it’s already ending. We’ve talked for about an hour
🫧: But having some alcohol while on radio is refreshing
🐢: It was fun~
☕: Rather than refreshing it’s the first time for me lmao!
🫧: This was fun right?
🐢: Yeah~
🫧: The fact that block.fm allows this is amazing
🐢: Yes!
☕: Thank you! [block.fm] I want to come more often!
At the end they talk about wanting to watch the movie screening of BMSG FES ‘23
🫧: We’re always behind / performing, we’ve never seen it from the front / audience
🐢, ☕: Let’s go! Sounds good!
🐢: We’re really going? It’s not a lie
🫧: Really. No cap
🐢: We’re just recording in a room with alcohol. Which so happens to have mics
🫧: It’s very private isn’t it?
☕: It is!
☕: This is probably also a very different KAIRYU from MAZZEL RADIO Kairyu haha!
🫧: You don’t need to be so nervous!
To close, Shota will play one of his songs, but he also asks them which of his songs they like
🫧: I know 🐢likes Pandora
🐢,🫧: 🤣🤣🤣🤣
🫧: And ☕ actually did a cover of “Aurora TOKIO”
☕: I did!
🫧: So I think we’ll wrap it up here by playing “Aurora TOKIO”...
🫧: I want to do a BMSG special again
☕: I wanna do this as often as we can ✨
🫧: The same line up?
☕: I still have a lot I want to say!
🐢: Someone from BE:FIRST and MAZZEL, with Shochan as the main, and we all just take turns.
🫧: Then there’s at least seven of this! Hahahaha! I want to do something on Youtube though
☕: Ohhh!
🫧: [When it’s out] come round to play~
🐢: Or like an instalive would be good right?
🫧: While drinking alcohol?
🐢: Not bad is it?
ALL: 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
🫧: Stop, I’m actually not a strong drinker haha.
🫧: Ok, to sign off… This has been BE:FIRST’s
🐢: JUNON! [he sounds tipsy lmao]
🫧: And MAZZEL’s..
☕: KAIRYU! I’m absolutely red right now
ALL: 🤣🤣🤣🤣
🫧: And Aile The Shota~ Until next time~
❄️AURORA TOKIO plays✨
Hope you found their discussion interesting!
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