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bmsgSummary of SKY-HI's radio show, DIVE TO THE NEW WORLD episode on May 10, 2025.
Guests were SHUNTO and LEO from BE:FIRST!
🌞: Genki?
🐨: Yes / 🦁: Yes I am!
🌞: That’s good
🦁: I’ve gotten used to it, a little!
🌞: To what?
🦁: America… LA
🌞: You mean me?
🦁: No, me.
🌞: You’re used to it? I think you’re too used to it
🐨: 🦁 is very used to it
🌞: Usually when we’re in a new place we might not be used to the speed of people talking, words we don’t know, and will have moments of, “Mm? What did they just say?” but you’ve been chatting pretty normally with people here
🦁: I have had moments where I got frustrated.
🌞: Plus there are probably words you don’t know, not that those seem to pose problems for you
🦁: Yeah, but there are moments when I don’t know what I want to say… or I didn’t say something… So here and there… There’d be words I don’t know…
🌞: Here and there www So there are words you don’t know that pop up
🐨: When we were walking back from Coachella.. We walked a lot. I asked our English-speaking manager to teach me super-gentlemen English 😂 So I was learning a lot while walking back
🦁: You learned lots!
🌞: That’s good!
🦁: It’s been fun!! I don’t know if it’s because I’m good at being friends with people…
🌞: You’ve been doing a great job! I think you demonstrated that very well in the LA Show. You’re evolving!
🦁: I am?
🌞: Yes yes
🦁: We’ve all been taking English lessons right? So [those lessons] felt like warm-up / prep and I wanted to use absolutely everything I learned [at the LA Show]
🌞: I see!
🦁: But 🐨 has been working hard too
🐨: Mmmmm, how is it I wonder
[boss laughs]
🦁: You went to the gym didn’t you?
🐨: I did but kinda looked it up as I go…
🌞: One of the themes is to “become closer with the world” right? Understand various cultures and people… 🐨 wanted to take dance lessons [with mL] too right?
🐨: I’ve always wanted to take a lesson with them…
🌞: [mL] is quite huge.. Was it different from dance lessons in Japan?
🐨: I think vibes… There was a lot of “This part is like this, but you can dance to this depending on how you’re feeling”
🌞: Open-minded and brighter?
🐨: I think so
🌞: You even look happier, people listening can’t tell but 🐨’s happier, see?
🐨: Am I?
[Boss laughs]
🌞: Well, you’re also in a tank top
🐨: I thought I’ll come in relaxed 😂
🦁: There are people I thought seemed scary at first but once I talk to them they’re pretty friendly, so I think if you take that step forward everyone’s actually really kind!
🌞: I think conversations happen a lot… In Japan, it’s not like when we get in the elevator and just “What’s up?” each other right?
🐨, 🦁: No~
🌞: That’s a cultural difference, and I think whether for the LA and SF shows, the way the audience livens up a live is quite exciting and it makes you happy. Especially for people that’s seeing you for the first time, the straightforwardness of the cheers with every move you make. It makes you imagine how much more that looks and sounds like in a bigger place.
🦁: I think there were really small kids there too? And there was some space at the back, so I saw someone around my age? I dunno if they’re a couple or they’re friends, but there was a man and a woman dancing. It made me super happy.
🐨: There was! I get it too.
🌞 says they were able to be at a studio in LA to record something the day before the LA Show, and 🦁 was the first one to jump into the recording booth
🦁: If you told me to do it, I’ll do it
And boss says if someone sings or hums a something into the mic then that becomes what he uses
🦁: Wasn’t “Blissful” kind of made like that?
🌞: But we prepared properly for that right? This time I wasn’t trying to strictly follow something and being more open mind.
🌞 says he can see the impact of Kpop because when they were at the studio, there wasn’t any prejudice just because they’re Asian. 8 years ago, he thinks they would’ve been looked down upon. Boss gave the example of, “You’re going to rap?! 🤨” but now it’s like, “Aayyyy~” he’s glad they’re being respected.
🌞 says he had a vision when he was making this, and it was done two weeks before the members were asked to pre-record.
🌞: Oh yeah, we haven’t really talked about 🦁’s “I just wanna [be myself]” right?
🦁: On Milli-Billi we talked it about it a little
🌞: Don’t worry, we can talk about it as much as you want here!
🦁: Hehe, as much as I want? 😂
🌞: Have you listened to the song yet in LA?
🦁: I actually got the demo track while we were in LA last year, so I told them, “Yes this is it!” and LA was also where I heard / learned “Check out my drip”, so I put it in there.
🌞: Oh that’s right! [boss laughs] You put quite a lot in there, ahahaha! This is nostalgic! It is very Western coast-esque, like something you’d hear in LA
🦁: It’s embarrassing so I haven’t done it yet
[boss laughs] / 🐨 wwwww
🦁 says if it’s around the hotel and the area they’re staying maybe he’ll listen to it
🦁 thought about him driving or walking around the streets of Japan and he said the members’ faces and people like Kawashima-san came up, and he thought about them as he wrote the song, that’s why there are things like having coffee at his favorite coffee shop etc.
Since the world tour will take them to Europe, then NY and back to Japan again, 🌞 hopes that the boys are better able to see their own traits (what’s unique about them as Japanese) when they go back to Japan.
It’s how 🦁 met the brand / sponsor? And they were the ones who taught him new slang this time in LA too. Although 🦁 doesn’t understand some parts of the conversation, he’s glad the common language between them is slangs 😂 (🐨: wwwww)
🌞: Scott (?) said it too, after 🐧 the next person good at English is probably 🦁
🦁: Eh, that makes me happy~ But 🐨 too, usually when we’re recording it’s two members and Scott… I’m often paired with 🐨, he’d be like “Heyyy~ What’s up Scott~”
🐨: I didn’t talk~ www
🌞: But I think 🐨’s English has gotten better, he’ll react with an “Oh!” I think you do that it’s easier to start talking
🐨: Really?
🌞: I think so?
🐨: I’ll do my best
🦁: I thought 🐨 can definitely talk. He’s always, “No, I’m ___” (🐨: wwww) but I think he’s gotten to being able to talk
🌞: Lately, we’ve also had people that once they find out we’re Japanese they start saying, “Sushi? Arigatou” and stuff so it made me think we can just talk / say things in English without thinking too much
🦁: Our driver David, likes anime. He sits next to me a lot.
🐨: 🦁 takes the passenger seat a lot wwww
🌞: You try it next time? I think it’s super good!
🦁: It’s also very big
🌞: True, and we usually don’t go at that speed [in Japan]
🦁: And David knows a bit of Japanese, he talked about anime constantly on our way back from Coachella. So he sometimes mixes both languages together
🦁 says there’d be times when David is trying to tell him a joke, but 🦁 was laser-focused thinking David’s talking in English that it’ll take him a second to learn David is joking.
🌞: I think there are times when David’s happy that 🦁 acts a little bit foolish, I remember
🦁: There was a lot of, “Hm? Ohhhhh, it’s a joke~”
🌞: Sounds tough wwww He could’ve just said it in Japanese then
🦁: He did
🌞, 🐨: Oh he did wwww
🦁: And his pronunciation is really good. I struggle with pronouncing the “geles” in Los Angeles so he helped me. 🐨 knows (🐨: No I don’t www) and David would go “geles” in a joking way
🌞: But that’s nice of him, helping you with pronunciation
When boss goes to a new city, he does a simulation in his head where he imagines himself as someone living there. He finds it fun!
🦁 picked this song to play, because this song is significant to him as the one where the members went to boss about the song they wanted to do.
So boss asked them was there a precursor or a lead-up to them talking to him about doing Mainstream
🦁 remembers
🦁: I’m a worrywart right, we were at the NOAH dance studio.. I probably said something like I want all seven of us to talk together. I think I was wondering if I was suited [for a song in this direction], or maybe I am [and I just don’t know].
Leo starting the conversation helped the others to talk and share what they wanted to do and what they think will suit them. 🦁 was very unsure and anxious himself at the time but once he shared it and the other members did too, he realized everyone else also felt the same way and it was the moment he thought everyone was headed in the same direction.
🌞: I think it’s also that BGB is too strong too. Even in numbers. It’s a good song too so when you perform it you have a good reaction [from the audience too], so there was the question of whether, “Will you become a group that does BGB?”
🦁: I remember we talked about that too.
🌞: In hip hop too, no matter the era or period of time, what would be “BE:FIRST-like”? I thought you guys needed to have something different before “Mainstream” [not sure about this one, grain of salt here please]
🌞: With that we come to another “BE:FIRST-like” song, Grit. I think it’s my favourite kind of hip hop, it sums up my youth www
🦁: We went to boss’s house for this too.
🐨: Mm
🦁: Isn’t it nostalgic looking back?
🐨: Yeah
🌞: We could do that because I’m in my new place now, a space where everyone can talk. Because we have “Mainstream” now and everyone shares what’s “BE:FIRST-like” we can continuously create songs like that now. You don’t have to get super detailed and producers can get to work. But it’s also a problem… [not sure about this one either]
🌞 says there are moments where he’d want to talk to 🦁 or talk to 🐨 but their timings don’t match. He thinks having conversations with them is very important.
So 🦁 says: Boss, I know the company’s growing there’s new staff coming in all the time… We’re also in our fourth year. During THE FIRST, shacho said “When you rely on someone it means you trust them, and it makes people happy when they are being depended on” right? So I think boss you can rely on us too! 🙂 We’ve grown! We still have a lot to do, but if there are situations where you’d like us to take the lead, then please leave it to us.
🌞: I know
🦁: We’ll be on standby! 😤 🫡
🌞: About that, 🐨 has also been making a lot of songs lately. You sent a lot so I’m going to take time to listen to them again okay.
🐨: Thank you~
🌞: And I want to ask something of 🦁, I want you to make a song with 🐹
🦁: With 🐹? Sure!
🌞: I think you two will be pretty compatible!
🦁: Well there’s BMSG FES
🌞: If you guys can make it for September I’d like you guys to do it
🦁: Of course!
🌞: You guys can decide the members you want for it, or after the song is made, it’s up to you both. I really think you guys will balance each other well! Your voices and emotional sensibility? Like the Jpop feeling and the US feeling; 🐹’s melody sense and 🦁’s melody sense… I really think you two will work out well
🦁: Really? I’ll give it a try!
🌞: Should we go with 🐨 first?
🐨: I knew itttt
[boss laughs for very long]
🐨 is the type that thinks and contemplates for a long time. Looking at the problem from multiple angles and also answering his own questions (multiple times).
🌞: 🐨 really likes thinking on his own
🐨: Yeah, I think a lot
🌞: And I think compared to talking with someone you prefer thinking on your own a lot more
🐨: Yeah, that’s true…
🌞: Do you remember talking to people (about problems)?
🐨: Not really 😂
🌞 remembers having a one-on-one chat with 🐨 and Shunto saying, “Oh if someone had told me that~”
🦁: But I also have the impression that 🐨 thinks a lot, not just his own worries, other things too
🐨: That’s true…
🌞: I get that impression too, that 🐨’s constantly thinking. “How about we do this next” or “What about this next”...
🐨: Because of that and me respecting that person’s opinion I end up not saying anything… 😂 Because I don’t want to hurt their feelings so…
🌞: What about 🦁?
🦁: I feel like I hit some walls during THE FIRST. I got over those and there were new walls. But.. how do I put it, I’m clumsy. Unlike people who are smart, they can pick and choose the most logical / best option and do that, I’m not like that.. I have to try out all the options and see what happens 😂 By the end, I may get 1 to 3 options right, so I don’t think too much about it and just do them. If I feel like it’s hard then I let myself do it so that I accept and be satisfied with it. Unlike 🐨 who thinks a lot I kind of do things, I go, “But I was able to do it up to here!” So it’s like I hit walls everyday
🌞: When I think about 🦁’s life, it’s quite amazing
🐨: mmmm
🌞: You’re the epitome of not giving up; persistence
🦁: I think so too! Because for everyone who is aiming to be an artist, there always comes a time where you think, “I don’t think I can be an artist” right? Because I still remember very clearly, I had that, “What should I do? Should I give up?” moment. But I went from one end to another, I was a student so I was quite extreme – But I thought, “There’s nothing but music I want [to pursue]!” I don’t want to die just yet, let’s work hard on music again. It was like that for me. I feel like I couldn’t do anything else except work hard, there was nothing else I wanted to do more. Being alive; living equals music for me, so that was the only thing I could do.
🌞: I get that
🦁: Then I did that and came here. Rather than I worked hard, it was more like I did all I could to get here.
🌞: mm mmm. It’s been really amazing. Your vocals too, have been growing
🌞: A normal person, if they’re stuck in the same place, they’d think it’s a dead end. But there’s… what’s it called, a picture from a dream.
🦁: Ahh if you went further…
🌞: Yeah, if you dug a little further you would’ve found a mine of gold.
🦁: That’s probably my 100 takeaways 😂
🌞: I always look forward to your development
🦁: 😂 I’m the clumsy representative ✨
🌞: Your vocals were really good in the SF show
🦁: Really? But you know there are songs I get frustrated about whenever I sing them…
🌞: You say that all the time wwww
🐨: You say it all the time lol
🌞: I don’t really get the impression you get “Oh I sang really well today!” a lot
🦁: Most of the time I’m frustrated
🌞: In baseball, it’s like the manager told you, “That was a perfect homerun!” and you’re going “Nah, I still have a long ways to go”
🦁: [Leo laughs] 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 But yeah.. I think I keep looking for my imperfections
🌞: I think that’s good in terms of how you want to improve, but you should create space to praise yourself.
🦁: Okay. Yes. I’ll do it 😄 Because some people write their thoughts on our songs a few days after seeing a live, and they’ll say they tear up – seeing those makes me happy. So I [praise myself like that] but not immediately yet 😂
🌞: [boss laughs] What are you getting embarrassed for 😂 but seriously, you were good
🦁: The members are really talented, so they leave an impression even if it’s just one second
🌞: Well, we sing live right? It’s impossible that we put out the same quality yesterday and today right?
🐨: mm
🌞: And maybe what you did good yesterday wasn’t so good today, or today your throat’s not feeling good, or you have a blocked nose. Because the other members are so good.. Just because one member isn’t in great condition, it doesn’t diminish the quality of BE:FIRST at all, there’s reliability in that. The LA and SF shows just finished and I can see that [in all of them.
🦁: When I performed my solo song on Love it, it made me realize how dependable the members were. I was really nervous, my mic was really shaky.
🌞: I told you too right, when you suddenly have to sing your solo song live in the studio – the nerves…. 😂
🦁: I was “ohhhh!” and trembling. It made me realise once again how grateful I am of the members. When I see the backs of the six of them it hits me sometimes. And when the members praise me it makes me really happy 😊 Like, “Shunto told me this song is good”
🐨: I don’t really tell you though wwwww
🌞: 🐨’s the type that tells you you did good today
🦁: Shunto doesn’t tell me I did good x, y z ☹️ I tell him. Like 🐧 recently told me that the note I hit was really good and I was like “Ehhh~ really?” 😊 but 🐧 wasn’t looking at me ☹️ He was changing but I was smiling all day
🌞: In a good way, it’s like he’s just telling it to you straight
🦁: Yeah, not just the members, when shacho compliments me too. When it’s not a live and I get complimented it makes me super happy. But if it’s right after a live, I’m reflecting… So when shacho tells me right after a live that my singing has gotten good, I might be going, “mm, it’s alright..” inside I’m actually all smiles! Like I’m trying to be cool but also kind of embarrassed
🌞, 🐨: wwww
🌞: I guess it’s the humility in you. It’s like you
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Guests were SHUNTO and LEO from BE:FIRST!
Intro
🌞: Genki?
🐨: Yes / 🦁: Yes I am!
🌞: That’s good
🦁: I’ve gotten used to it, a little!
🌞: To what?
🦁: America… LA
🌞: You mean me?
🦁: No, me.
🌞: You’re used to it? I think you’re too used to it
🐨: 🦁 is very used to it
🌞: Usually when we’re in a new place we might not be used to the speed of people talking, words we don’t know, and will have moments of, “Mm? What did they just say?” but you’ve been chatting pretty normally with people here
🦁: I have had moments where I got frustrated.
🌞: Plus there are probably words you don’t know, not that those seem to pose problems for you
🦁: Yeah, but there are moments when I don’t know what I want to say… or I didn’t say something… So here and there… There’d be words I don’t know…
🌞: Here and there www So there are words you don’t know that pop up
🐨: When we were walking back from Coachella.. We walked a lot. I asked our English-speaking manager to teach me super-gentlemen English 😂 So I was learning a lot while walking back
🦁: You learned lots!
🌞: That’s good!
Trying to English
🦁: It’s been fun!! I don’t know if it’s because I’m good at being friends with people…
🌞: You’ve been doing a great job! I think you demonstrated that very well in the LA Show. You’re evolving!
🦁: I am?
🌞: Yes yes
🦁: We’ve all been taking English lessons right? So [those lessons] felt like warm-up / prep and I wanted to use absolutely everything I learned [at the LA Show]
🌞: I see!
🦁: But 🐨 has been working hard too
🐨: Mmmmm, how is it I wonder
[boss laughs]
🦁: You went to the gym didn’t you?
🐨: I did but kinda looked it up as I go…
🌞: One of the themes is to “become closer with the world” right? Understand various cultures and people… 🐨 wanted to take dance lessons [with mL] too right?
🐨: I’ve always wanted to take a lesson with them…
🌞: [mL] is quite huge.. Was it different from dance lessons in Japan?
🐨: I think vibes… There was a lot of “This part is like this, but you can dance to this depending on how you’re feeling”
🌞: Open-minded and brighter?
🐨: I think so
🌞: You even look happier, people listening can’t tell but 🐨’s happier, see?
🐨: Am I?
[Boss laughs]
🌞: Well, you’re also in a tank top
🐨: I thought I’ll come in relaxed 😂
LA and SF Shows
🦁: There are people I thought seemed scary at first but once I talk to them they’re pretty friendly, so I think if you take that step forward everyone’s actually really kind!
🌞: I think conversations happen a lot… In Japan, it’s not like when we get in the elevator and just “What’s up?” each other right?
🐨, 🦁: No~
🌞: That’s a cultural difference, and I think whether for the LA and SF shows, the way the audience livens up a live is quite exciting and it makes you happy. Especially for people that’s seeing you for the first time, the straightforwardness of the cheers with every move you make. It makes you imagine how much more that looks and sounds like in a bigger place.
🦁: I think there were really small kids there too? And there was some space at the back, so I saw someone around my age? I dunno if they’re a couple or they’re friends, but there was a man and a woman dancing. It made me super happy.
🐨: There was! I get it too.
Recording a something in LA
🌞 says they were able to be at a studio in LA to record something the day before the LA Show, and 🦁 was the first one to jump into the recording booth
🦁: If you told me to do it, I’ll do it
And boss says if someone sings or hums a something into the mic then that becomes what he uses
🦁: Wasn’t “Blissful” kind of made like that?
🌞: But we prepared properly for that right? This time I wasn’t trying to strictly follow something and being more open mind.
🌞 says he can see the impact of Kpop because when they were at the studio, there wasn’t any prejudice just because they’re Asian. 8 years ago, he thinks they would’ve been looked down upon. Boss gave the example of, “You’re going to rap?! 🤨” but now it’s like, “Aayyyy~” he’s glad they’re being respected.
About “Muchuu”
🌞 says he had a vision when he was making this, and it was done two weeks before the members were asked to pre-record.
About “I just wanna be myself”
🌞: Oh yeah, we haven’t really talked about 🦁’s “I just wanna [be myself]” right?
🦁: On Milli-Billi we talked it about it a little
🌞: Don’t worry, we can talk about it as much as you want here!
🦁: Hehe, as much as I want? 😂
🌞: Have you listened to the song yet in LA?
🦁: I actually got the demo track while we were in LA last year, so I told them, “Yes this is it!” and LA was also where I heard / learned “Check out my drip”, so I put it in there.
🌞: Oh that’s right! [boss laughs] You put quite a lot in there, ahahaha! This is nostalgic! It is very Western coast-esque, like something you’d hear in LA
🦁: It’s embarrassing so I haven’t done it yet
[boss laughs] / 🐨 wwwww
🦁 says if it’s around the hotel and the area they’re staying maybe he’ll listen to it
🦁 thought about him driving or walking around the streets of Japan and he said the members’ faces and people like Kawashima-san came up, and he thought about them as he wrote the song, that’s why there are things like having coffee at his favorite coffee shop etc.
Since the world tour will take them to Europe, then NY and back to Japan again, 🌞 hopes that the boys are better able to see their own traits (what’s unique about them as Japanese) when they go back to Japan.
It’s how 🦁 met the brand / sponsor? And they were the ones who taught him new slang this time in LA too. Although 🦁 doesn’t understand some parts of the conversation, he’s glad the common language between them is slangs 😂 (🐨: wwwww)
🌞: Scott (?) said it too, after 🐧 the next person good at English is probably 🦁
🦁: Eh, that makes me happy~ But 🐨 too, usually when we’re recording it’s two members and Scott… I’m often paired with 🐨, he’d be like “Heyyy~ What’s up Scott~”
🐨: I didn’t talk~ www
🌞: But I think 🐨’s English has gotten better, he’ll react with an “Oh!” I think you do that it’s easier to start talking
🐨: Really?
🌞: I think so?
🐨: I’ll do my best
🦁: I thought 🐨 can definitely talk. He’s always, “No, I’m ___” (🐨: wwww) but I think he’s gotten to being able to talk
Leo and Driver David
🌞: Lately, we’ve also had people that once they find out we’re Japanese they start saying, “Sushi? Arigatou” and stuff so it made me think we can just talk / say things in English without thinking too much
🦁: Our driver David, likes anime. He sits next to me a lot.
🐨: 🦁 takes the passenger seat a lot wwww
🌞: You try it next time? I think it’s super good!
🦁: It’s also very big
🌞: True, and we usually don’t go at that speed [in Japan]
🦁: And David knows a bit of Japanese, he talked about anime constantly on our way back from Coachella. So he sometimes mixes both languages together
🦁 says there’d be times when David is trying to tell him a joke, but 🦁 was laser-focused thinking David’s talking in English that it’ll take him a second to learn David is joking.
🌞: I think there are times when David’s happy that 🦁 acts a little bit foolish, I remember
🦁: There was a lot of, “Hm? Ohhhhh, it’s a joke~”
🌞: Sounds tough wwww He could’ve just said it in Japanese then
🦁: He did
🌞, 🐨: Oh he did wwww
🦁: And his pronunciation is really good. I struggle with pronouncing the “geles” in Los Angeles so he helped me. 🐨 knows (🐨: No I don’t www) and David would go “geles” in a joking way
🌞: But that’s nice of him, helping you with pronunciation
When boss goes to a new city, he does a simulation in his head where he imagines himself as someone living there. He finds it fun!
About Mainstream
🦁 picked this song to play, because this song is significant to him as the one where the members went to boss about the song they wanted to do.
So boss asked them was there a precursor or a lead-up to them talking to him about doing Mainstream
🦁 remembers
🦁: I’m a worrywart right, we were at the NOAH dance studio.. I probably said something like I want all seven of us to talk together. I think I was wondering if I was suited [for a song in this direction], or maybe I am [and I just don’t know].
Leo starting the conversation helped the others to talk and share what they wanted to do and what they think will suit them. 🦁 was very unsure and anxious himself at the time but once he shared it and the other members did too, he realized everyone else also felt the same way and it was the moment he thought everyone was headed in the same direction.
🌞: I think it’s also that BGB is too strong too. Even in numbers. It’s a good song too so when you perform it you have a good reaction [from the audience too], so there was the question of whether, “Will you become a group that does BGB?”
🦁: I remember we talked about that too.
🌞: In hip hop too, no matter the era or period of time, what would be “BE:FIRST-like”? I thought you guys needed to have something different before “Mainstream” [not sure about this one, grain of salt here please]
About Grit
🌞: With that we come to another “BE:FIRST-like” song, Grit. I think it’s my favourite kind of hip hop, it sums up my youth www
🦁: We went to boss’s house for this too.
🐨: Mm
🦁: Isn’t it nostalgic looking back?
🐨: Yeah
🌞: We could do that because I’m in my new place now, a space where everyone can talk. Because we have “Mainstream” now and everyone shares what’s “BE:FIRST-like” we can continuously create songs like that now. You don’t have to get super detailed and producers can get to work. But it’s also a problem… [not sure about this one either]
🌞 says there are moments where he’d want to talk to 🦁 or talk to 🐨 but their timings don’t match. He thinks having conversations with them is very important.
So 🦁 says: Boss, I know the company’s growing there’s new staff coming in all the time… We’re also in our fourth year. During THE FIRST, shacho said “When you rely on someone it means you trust them, and it makes people happy when they are being depended on” right? So I think boss you can rely on us too! 🙂 We’ve grown! We still have a lot to do, but if there are situations where you’d like us to take the lead, then please leave it to us.
🌞: I know
🦁: We’ll be on standby! 😤 🫡
🌞: About that, 🐨 has also been making a lot of songs lately. You sent a lot so I’m going to take time to listen to them again okay.
🐨: Thank you~
🌞: And I want to ask something of 🦁, I want you to make a song with 🐹
🦁: With 🐹? Sure!
🌞: I think you two will be pretty compatible!
🦁: Well there’s BMSG FES
🌞: If you guys can make it for September I’d like you guys to do it
🦁: Of course!
🌞: You guys can decide the members you want for it, or after the song is made, it’s up to you both. I really think you guys will balance each other well! Your voices and emotional sensibility? Like the Jpop feeling and the US feeling; 🐹’s melody sense and 🦁’s melody sense… I really think you two will work out well
🦁: Really? I’ll give it a try!
How do Shunto and Leo overcome obstacles?
🌞: Should we go with 🐨 first?
🐨: I knew itttt
[boss laughs for very long]
🐨 is the type that thinks and contemplates for a long time. Looking at the problem from multiple angles and also answering his own questions (multiple times).
🌞: 🐨 really likes thinking on his own
🐨: Yeah, I think a lot
🌞: And I think compared to talking with someone you prefer thinking on your own a lot more
🐨: Yeah, that’s true…
🌞: Do you remember talking to people (about problems)?
🐨: Not really 😂
🌞 remembers having a one-on-one chat with 🐨 and Shunto saying, “Oh if someone had told me that~”
🦁: But I also have the impression that 🐨 thinks a lot, not just his own worries, other things too
🐨: That’s true…
🌞: I get that impression too, that 🐨’s constantly thinking. “How about we do this next” or “What about this next”...
🐨: Because of that and me respecting that person’s opinion I end up not saying anything… 😂 Because I don’t want to hurt their feelings so…
🌞: What about 🦁?
🦁: I feel like I hit some walls during THE FIRST. I got over those and there were new walls. But.. how do I put it, I’m clumsy. Unlike people who are smart, they can pick and choose the most logical / best option and do that, I’m not like that.. I have to try out all the options and see what happens 😂 By the end, I may get 1 to 3 options right, so I don’t think too much about it and just do them. If I feel like it’s hard then I let myself do it so that I accept and be satisfied with it. Unlike 🐨 who thinks a lot I kind of do things, I go, “But I was able to do it up to here!” So it’s like I hit walls everyday
🌞: When I think about 🦁’s life, it’s quite amazing
🐨: mmmm
🌞: You’re the epitome of not giving up; persistence
🦁: I think so too! Because for everyone who is aiming to be an artist, there always comes a time where you think, “I don’t think I can be an artist” right? Because I still remember very clearly, I had that, “What should I do? Should I give up?” moment. But I went from one end to another, I was a student so I was quite extreme – But I thought, “There’s nothing but music I want [to pursue]!” I don’t want to die just yet, let’s work hard on music again. It was like that for me. I feel like I couldn’t do anything else except work hard, there was nothing else I wanted to do more. Being alive; living equals music for me, so that was the only thing I could do.
🌞: I get that
🦁: Then I did that and came here. Rather than I worked hard, it was more like I did all I could to get here.
🌞: mm mmm. It’s been really amazing. Your vocals too, have been growing
🌞: A normal person, if they’re stuck in the same place, they’d think it’s a dead end. But there’s… what’s it called, a picture from a dream.
🦁: Ahh if you went further…
🌞: Yeah, if you dug a little further you would’ve found a mine of gold.
🦁: That’s probably my 100 takeaways 😂
🌞: I always look forward to your development
🦁: 😂 I’m the clumsy representative ✨
🌞: Your vocals were really good in the SF show
🦁: Really? But you know there are songs I get frustrated about whenever I sing them…
🌞: You say that all the time wwww
🐨: You say it all the time lol
🌞: I don’t really get the impression you get “Oh I sang really well today!” a lot
🦁: Most of the time I’m frustrated
🌞: In baseball, it’s like the manager told you, “That was a perfect homerun!” and you’re going “Nah, I still have a long ways to go”
🦁: [Leo laughs] 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 But yeah.. I think I keep looking for my imperfections
🌞: I think that’s good in terms of how you want to improve, but you should create space to praise yourself.
🦁: Okay. Yes. I’ll do it 😄 Because some people write their thoughts on our songs a few days after seeing a live, and they’ll say they tear up – seeing those makes me happy. So I [praise myself like that] but not immediately yet 😂
🌞: [boss laughs] What are you getting embarrassed for 😂 but seriously, you were good
🦁: The members are really talented, so they leave an impression even if it’s just one second
🌞: Well, we sing live right? It’s impossible that we put out the same quality yesterday and today right?
🐨: mm
🌞: And maybe what you did good yesterday wasn’t so good today, or today your throat’s not feeling good, or you have a blocked nose. Because the other members are so good.. Just because one member isn’t in great condition, it doesn’t diminish the quality of BE:FIRST at all, there’s reliability in that. The LA and SF shows just finished and I can see that [in all of them.
🦁: When I performed my solo song on Love it, it made me realize how dependable the members were. I was really nervous, my mic was really shaky.
🌞: I told you too right, when you suddenly have to sing your solo song live in the studio – the nerves…. 😂
🦁: I was “ohhhh!” and trembling. It made me realise once again how grateful I am of the members. When I see the backs of the six of them it hits me sometimes. And when the members praise me it makes me really happy 😊 Like, “Shunto told me this song is good”
🐨: I don’t really tell you though wwwww
🌞: 🐨’s the type that tells you you did good today
🦁: Shunto doesn’t tell me I did good x, y z ☹️ I tell him. Like 🐧 recently told me that the note I hit was really good and I was like “Ehhh~ really?” 😊 but 🐧 wasn’t looking at me ☹️ He was changing but I was smiling all day
🌞: In a good way, it’s like he’s just telling it to you straight
🦁: Yeah, not just the members, when shacho compliments me too. When it’s not a live and I get complimented it makes me super happy. But if it’s right after a live, I’m reflecting… So when shacho tells me right after a live that my singing has gotten good, I might be going, “mm, it’s alright..” inside I’m actually all smiles! Like I’m trying to be cool but also kind of embarrassed
🌞, 🐨: wwww
🌞: I guess it’s the humility in you. It’s like you
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